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INTRODUCTION
Joseph: “Would you like seconds?” My name is Joseph!
Beatriz: And I am Beatriz!
Joseph: Last time we looked at some expressions related to food and we learned about the delicious Peruvian dish “ají de gallina”.
Beatriz: Uyuyuy
Joseph: That’s right! We also looked at that expression, too. “uyuyuy”. In today’s conversation, Pablito finds himself in a very common situation at the lunch table with his aunt Lucha, who is absolutely determined to get him to have a second help in.
Beatriz: This always happens in Peruvian families.
Joseph: That’s right! Remember to reference this lesson with Newbie Lesson 12 – “I’m full!” for a deeper understanding of the comparisons that we’re about to make in this lesson. Okay! So, in Newbie Lesson 12 we heard the following conversation:
DIALOGUE - NORMAL
TÍA ROSA: ¿Quieres más, Felipe?
FELIPE: No, gracias, tía. Ya estoy lleno.
TÍA ROSA: ¿Y tú, Juana?
JUANA: Estoy satisfecha. Usted prepara muy bien el cebiche.
TÍA ROSA: ¿Ustedes están seguros?
FELIPE: Gracias tía, pero estamos repletos.
Joseph: This time with the translation! Ahora incluiremos la traducción.
TÍA ROSA: ¿Quieres más, Felipe?
JUANA: “Do you want more, Felipe?”
FELIPE: No, gracias, tía. Ya estoy lleno.
FELIPE: “No, thanks, Aunt Rosa, I’m full.”
TÍA ROSA: ¿Y tú, Juana?
JUANA: “And you, Juana?”
JUANA: Estoy satisfecha. Usted prepara muy bien el cebiche.
JUANA: “I’m satisfied. You prepare the cebiche very well.”
TÍA ROSA: ¿Ustedes están seguros?
JUANA: “Are you all sure?”
FELIPE: Gracias tía, pero estamos repletos.
FELIPE: “Thank you, Aunt Rosa, but we’re stuffed.”
DIALOGUE - PERUVIAN
Joseph: Now, let’s hear what this could sound like in Peruvian Spanish.
TÍA LUCHA: ¿Quisieras repetir, Pablito?
PABLITO: No, gracias, tía. ¡Pero el cebiche fue un manjar!
TÍA LUCHA: ¡Ay, pero te conozco, Pablito! ¡Déjame servirte un poco más!
PABLITO: No, no, gracias, tía, ahí no más. De verdad, ya no puedo.
TÍA LUCHA: ¿¡Pero, si estás tan flaco!? ¡No fastidies, oye, come no más! ¡No seas chiflado!
PABLITO: Bueno, tía... Está bien... Sírveme...
Joseph: Once again, slowly! Una vez más, esta vez lentamente.
TÍA LUCHA: ¿Quisieras repetir, Pablito?
PABLITO: No, gracias, tía. ¡Pero el cebiche fue un manjar!
TÍA LUCHA: ¡Ay, pero te conozco, Pablito! ¡Déjame servirte un poco más!
PABLITO: No, no, gracias, tía, ahí no más. De verdad, ya no puedo.
TÍA LUCHA: ¿¡Pero, si estás tan flaco!? ¡No fastidies, oye, come no más! ¡No seas chiflado!
PABLITO: Bueno, tía... Está bien... Sírveme...
POST CONVERSATION BANTER
Beatriz: Tantas diferencias y tan poco tiempo para explicarlas.
Joseph: Yes, there are a lot of differences here, but we’ll do our best to explain them. Beatrice, to start out, let’s look at the way “Do you want more, Felipe?” was pronounced in the Peruvian version. Could you repeat that for us, please?
Beatriz: ¿Quisieras repetir, Pablito?
Joseph: “Would you like seconds, Pablito?” Now, in Newbie Lesson 12 it sounded like this:
TÍA ROSA: ¿Quieres más, Felipe?
Joseph: Beatrice, what do you think are the major differences here?
Beatriz: Obviamente el nombre Felipe cambió.
Joseph: Right! Of course, the name Felipe changed to Pablito, but I’m talking about the phrase “¿Quisieras repetir?”. In the Newbie Lesson we just hear:
TÍA ROSA: ¿Quieres más, Felipe?
Joseph: What’s going on there?
Beatriz: Bueno si dices “¿Quieres más?” la pregunta suena muy directa.
Joseph: That’s a good start! So, if we say “¿Quieres más?” the question sounds really direct. It’s like saying “Do you want more?” And if we say “Quiesaras” instead of “Quieres” how does the meaning change?
Beatriz: “Quisieras” is like saying “Would you like?” instead of “Do you want?”
Joseph: That’s a good one to know! And this form “quisieras” is the more polite way to ask if someone wants something, right?
Beatriz: ASí es. That’s right!
Joseph: Now, if you really want to impress your friends, you can tell them that this is called the Imperfect Tense of the Subjunctive Mood. But really, all you need to remember for now is that “quisieras” is more polite than “quieres”. Now, another word “repetir”. Beatrice, we didn’t hear that one in the Newbie Lesson neither. So, what exactly does “repetir” mean?
Beatriz: It means “to repeat”.
Joseph: “To repeat”, right! And what about the way it’s used in this conversation?
Beatriz: En este sentido significa comer otra porción de comida.
Joseph: So, in this sentence it means to eat another portion of food. So, we can say that this question “¿Quisieras repetir?” is something like “Would you like seconds?” or “Would you like a second help in?”
Beatriz: Así es.
Joseph: So, again, the standard way to say “Do you want more, Felipe?” is:
TÍA ROSA: ¿Quieres más, Felipe?
Joseph: And in the Peruvian Spanish version we hear:
Beatriz: ¿Quisieras repetir, Pablito?
Joseph: “Would you like seconds, Pablito?” All right! Next we’ll look at the way “Are you sure?” was rendered in Peruvian Spanish. Beatrice, could you take us back to where we heard that?
Beatriz: ¿¡Pero, si estás tan flaco!? ¡No fastidies, oye, come no más! ¡No seas chiflado!
Joseph: “But if you’re so skinny, you must be joking. Come on! Just eat! Don’t be crazy!” Now, in Newbie Lesson 12 it sounded like this:
TÍA ROSA: ¿Ustedes están seguros?
Joseph: Beatrice, these two versions barely look anything alike. What’s going on here?
Beatriz: Bueno esque en el Perú es fácil que tía o tu madre o alguna persona cercana a ti trate de convencerte para servirte un poco más.
Joseph: Right! So, in Peru it’s really common for your aunt or your mother or someone else who is close to you to try to convince you to eat more, they always want to serve you more, it’s a crazy custom.
Beatriz: Yes! Claro, esque busca algún motivo para servirte más ya que así expresan su cariño y consideración.
Joseph: So, in this way, she’s looking for a reason to serve you more food and this is a way of expressing her love or her endearment for you. And that expression “no fastidies”, what’s going on with that one?
Beatriz: En ese sentido quiere decir “no me hagas esas bromas”.
Joseph: Right, right! That’s what I was thinking. So, the expression “no fastidies” means something like “You must be joking.” or “Quit joking around.” Now, after that, she says “come no más” which is like saying “Come on, just eat!”
Beatriz: Claro, esas señoras pueden ser bien tercas, no se dan por vencidas.
Joseph: That’s right! These women can be very stubborn and they won’t give in for anything. And the last thing she says ¡No seas chiflado!”. Bea, what does that mean?
Beatriz: It’s just like saying “Don’t be crazy!”
Joseph: Right! “Don’t be crazy!” “Chiflado”. So, again, the standard way to say “Are you sure?” is:
TÍA ROSA: ¿Ustedes están seguros?
Joseph: And in the Peruvian Spanish version we hear:
Beatriz: ¿¡Pero, si estás tan flaco!? ¡No fastidies, oye, come no más! ¡No seas chiflado!
Joseph: “But if you’re so skinny, you must be joking! Come on, just eat! Don’t be crazy!” Okay, let’s go over some of the localisms that came up in the conversation. To begin, we’ll look at the expression “manjar”. Beatrice, would you take us back to where this came up in the Peruvian Spanish conversation?
Beatriz: ¡Pero el cebiche fue un manjar!
Joseph: “But the cebiche was a delicacy!” Now, Beatrice, two questions. What does the word “manjar”mean and why does Pablito’s Aunt Lucia insist that he eats more? Let’s begin with the word “manjar”. What does “manjar” mean?
Beatriz: “Manjar” is something extremely delicious.
Joseph: Okay! So, “manjar” is something that’s very, very good. It’s a delicacy. Now, we’ve looked at some other words to describe something that you really like to eat, like other adjectives like “riquisimo, rico, delicioso”. How do those compare to “manjar”?
Beatriz: “Manjar” is something very special. It doesn’t have to be something big, it’s always something special. It’s something little, but it’s very, very special.
Joseph: Right! So, could we say “Es poco pero rico”?
Beatriz: Poco pero rico o poco pero bueno.
Joseph: “Poco pero bueno”. Right! So, it’s a small portion, but it’s really delicious. “Manjar” is like something that just makes him mouth water, it’s so delicious, right?
Beatriz: Yes, it’s something really good.
Joseph: And there’s another meaning for “manjar” also, right? Like “manjar de leche”, right?
Beatriz: You’re talking about “dulce de leche”. We call in in Spanish “manjar blanco”. It’s sugar with milk, you know, reduced.
Joseph: So, it’s condensed milk that is caramelized. And when the sugar caramelizes it turns brown and it kind of changes into this thick, creamy, spreadable, sweet caramel, and you use it for a lot of different cakes and the famous “churros”. And the “churros” are tubes of fried dough which are filled with this sweet filling. Beatrice, the other thing I want to make sure we cover here is “la insistencia de la Tía Lucha” “the insistence of Aunt Lucia” here. She just won’t stop at anything until Pablito eats more. So, what exactly is she expressing when she insists like this?
Beatriz: Ella expresa su preocupación a que la persona en su casa se sienta agusto.
Joseph: Okay! So, by insisting in this way, she expresses her consideration, her love, so that the person in her home is comfortable.
Beatriz: Yes, and it’s like a respect, you know? If you are in someone’s house, it’s the kind of love and respect that you’re going to get from this person, this family.
Joseph: But it seems to be “algun tipo de contradicción”, some kind of a contradiction here, because it doesn’t look like Pablito wants to eat more. So, how is that considerate if he doesn’t want to eat?
Beatriz: That’s a good question! Si vas a la casa de alguien, de alguna tía, abuela, madre o alguna señora, es muy común que te sirvan mucho o aveces muy poco pero de esa forma expresan su cariño.
Joseph: So, they’re going to give you either a big portion or a small portion, but that’s how they’re showing their love and consideration for you. But, even if you don’t want it?
Beatriz: Muchas veces es así, si es que te vas a algun pueblito de la sierra y eres recibido en alguna familia y si te ofrecen por ejemplo cuy chactado es mejor que lo comas.
Joseph: Okay! So, if you go to a small town up in the highlands and they serve you something like “tiny peg” it’s better that you eat it, because if you don’t, you’re going to offend them, right?
Beatriz: That’s right!

Outro

Joseph: Okay! It’s so interesting to learn this kind of idiosyncrasies.
Beatriz: Yes, it is very important, I think so, too.
Joseph: Okay! This wraps up today’s lesson. Be sure to reference this lesson with Newbie Lesson 12. Until next time!
Beatriz: Nos vemos pronto.

Dialogue - Peruvian

Dialogue - Standard

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