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INTRODUCTION
Fernando: Hola todos, soy Fernando. Esto es Lower Intermediate Series, Season 3, Lesson 3 – “Would you miss out on a Spanish party like this?” Estoy acompañado de JP. JP hola ¿cómo estás?
JP: Hola Fernando, estoy super bien, ¿ tú?
Fernando: Bien muy bien.
JP: So, welcome, everyone, to the new Spanishpod101.com. We’re learning how to speak Spanish with some fun and effective lessons. And hopefully providing you with some cultural insights and tips that you might not find in a textbook. Now, Fernando, what are we going to hear in this lesson, today?
Fernando: En esta lección vamos a aprender acerca del tiempo futuro, de la probabilidad en el presente. La conversación toma lugar en la noche en la puerta de entrada de una casa y la conversación es entre Manuel y Gustavo y estara utilizando el registro informal.
JP: All right. Now, before we listen this dialogue, I want to remind everybody that you can find the transcript of this dialogue in the lesson notes of this lesson, you’ll find this lesson at www.Spanishpod101.com All right. Shall we listen to this conversation?
DIALOGUE
Manuel: ¿Será aquí la fiesta? Según el taxista ésta es la dirección que le dimos. ¿Tocamos?
Gustavo: Preguntando se llega a Roma; claro. Y si no es pero hay fiesta nos hacemos los invitados de alguien más.
Manuel: No no, hombre. Ni que tuvieramos quince años. Ya estamos maduros para andar haciendo ese tipo de cosas.
Gustavo: ¿Qué tiene? Mira, a esta edad tenemos más facilidad de armarnos una conversación chida. Neta. Aparte, traemos algo para la fiesta y eso siempre se aprecia.
Manuel: Obvio. Aun así, tocamos, vemos si es aquí, y si no, preguntamos si saben dónde viven Luis y Jimena.
Manuel: Is the party here? According to the taxi driver, this is the address that we told him. Do we knock?
Gustavo: Of course, you won't know unless you ask. And if it's not, but there's a party, we'll become somebody else's guests.
Manuel: No no, dude. It's not like we're fifteen years old. We're too mature to be going around doing that type of thing.
Gustavo: What's wrong with it? Look, at this age we're more skilled at starting a good conversation. For real. Besides, we're bringing something to the party, and that's always appreciated.
Manuel: Obviously. Even so, we'll knock, see whether it's here, and if not, we'll ask if they know where Luis and Jimena live.
POST CONVERSATION BANTER
JP: Ok, Fernando, there’s a lot going on here.
Fernando: Definitivamente. Manuel y Gustavo van a una fiesta. Pero no están seguros de la dirección de la casa que están buscando.
JP: So, probably, they’ve never been to that house, right? They do have an address and the cab driver took them there, but they’re still not sure they’ve got the right place. Manuel is wondering if he should just knock.
Fernando: Sí y Gustavo le dice el refrán “Preguntando se llega a Roma”.
JP: Right. Then, he goes on to say that even if it’s not the right party, it’s still a party.
Fernando: Nos hacemos los invitados de alguien mas.
JP: Right. We’ll just be someone else’s guests. That sounds reasonable to me.
Fernando: Bueno esa idea no le apetece nada a Manuel. Dice que ya están maduros para andar haciendo ese tipo de cosas.
JP: Yes, they’re way too old to go around doing that kind of tomfoolery. But, it seems like Gustavo is into it.
Fernando: Sí sobre todo diciendo que a su edad ya tienen más facilidad de ararse una conversación chida.
JP: Ok, so they’re older now, so they’re more charming.
Fernando: Efectivamente y aparte traen algo para la fiesta.
JP: That’s always a plus. Anyway, Manuel says they’ll know and if it’s not Luis and Jimena, then they’ll just ask the people if they know where Luis and Jimena live.
Fernando: Me parece buena idea.
JP: Now, Manuel doesn’t seem to be as adventurous as Gustavo.
Fernando: A los amigos no los debes dejar esperando.
JP: Ok, Fernando, you’re so considering it. So, what are the vocabulary words we’re going to look at?
VOCAB LIST
Fernando: la dirección
JP: “Direction”, “address”, “management”
Fernando: la di-re-ccion, la dirección. Tocar
JP: “To touch”, “to play an instrument”, “to knock”
Fernando: to-car, tocar
JP: All right. What’s next?
Fernando: Preguntando se llega a Roma
JP: “You never know unless you ask.”
Fernando: Pre-gun-tan-do se lle-ga a Ro-ma, preguntando se llega a Roma. Ni que.
JP: “It’s not as if” or “there’s no way”
Fernando: ni que, ni que
JP: And the last one?
Fernando: armar
JP: “To set up” or “to assemble”
Fernando: ar-mar, armar
VOCAB AND PHRASE USAGE
JP: Ok, Fernando. Shall we talk about these vocabulary words?
Fernando: Sí, hablemos y empecemos con “la dirección”.
JP: Ok, “la dirección”. Now, dirección can definitely mean “direction” in English, but here in our dialogue it has another sense.
Fernando: Manuel dice que aquella casa es la dirección que le dieron al taxista.
JP: Ok. So, in this case “la dirección” is “the address”, right?
Fernando: Sí. Sí, exacto. La siguiente palabra es tocar.
JP: Ok. “Tocar”, now this verb can also mean many things. Now, how did we hear it in the dialogue?
Fernando: Esque estan a la entrada de una casa y quieren entrar entonces dicen “¿Tocamos?”
JP: Ok, so here we’re obviously talking about “tocar la puerta”. In this case, [tocar] means “to knock”. Tocar.
Fernando: Tocar. El siguiente, un refrán. Tenemos un refrán.
JP: “Un refrán”, let’s hear it.
Fernando: Preguntando se llega a Roma
JP: Preguntando se llega a Roma. Ok, this is a “refrán”, it’s a saying, that Gustavo says after Manuel asks “¿tocamos? – “Should we knock?”
Fernando: Preguntando se llega a Roma, es decir “hay que preguntar”.
JP: Sure, you won’t find out unless you ask, right? Now, literally, “Preguntando se llega a Roma” this means “One arrives in Rome by asking.” Now, I’m sure there’s a great story behind why Latino say this expression, but for our purposes, we’re just going to tell you that it means “You got to ask.”, right? No harm in asking.
Fernando: Sí y la última palabra en nuestra lista hoy es “armar”.
JP: Ok. Armar. Now, this is another verb that can have a couple of meanings. How did we hear it in the conversation?
Fernando: “Podemos armar una conversación chida.”
JP: Ok, now “armar” can mean “to arm”, like to supply weapons; it can also mean “to assemble”, like if you buy furniture in Ikea, but here it’s “armar una conversación”. How do we even say that in English?
Fernando: Se puede decir “strike up a conversation”?
JP: Oh, yes. “To strike up a conversation”. So, “armar una conversación chida” – “strike up a conversation”. Armar.
Fernando: Y por último tenemos “ni que”.
JP: Ni que. Now this is kind of like a conjunction, it starts off a clause, right? “Ni que”. And it usually signals something preposterous. Now, how did we hear it in the dialogue?
Fernando: Uno de ellos dice “Ni que tuviéramos quince años”.
JP: Ok. “Ni que tuviéramos quince años” – “It’s not as if we’re 15 years old.”, right? Now, when we talk about age, it’s “tener quince años” – “to be 15 years old”. But, you see that after “ni que”, we followed it with the Imperfect Subjunctive, right? “Ni que tuviéramos quince años”
Fernando: Así es. Perfecto, ahora la sección de gramática. ¿De qué vamos a hablar JP?

Lesson focus

JP: Well, there are a lot of great things that we could talk about in this lesson, but we only have time to talk about one of them. The rest we can talk about in the comment section of this lesson. In any case, let’s look at the Future Tense as a speculative present or a Present of Probability.
Fernando: Adelante.
JP: Ok, so we all know about the Future Tense in Spanish, like compraré, comprarás, comprará etc. And the primary function of the future is to talk about future time. So, if I say “comprarán” it means “they shall buy”.
Fernando: Excellente.
JP: Now, there’s also a secondary function of the Future Tense, and that is to speculate about present actions. So, this function, it is the Future Tense, but we’re not talking about the future at all. Instead, we’re speculating on the Present. So, we said “comprarán” means “they shall eat”, but it can also mean, secondarily, “they’re probably eating now”.
Fernando: Sí por ejemplo, si te pregunto “¿Dónde están mis hermanos?” Tú me puedes responder: “Nose, estarán comprando las bebidas.”
JP: Ok. “estarán comprando las bebidas” – “they’re probably buying something to drink”. Now, I can only say that if we were speculating. If I knew for a fact that they were at the store loading up the shopping cart with two little bottles, I would say, I would say “compran bebidas” or “están comprando bebidas” in the Present Tense. But, if I’m not sure and I want to speculate, I’d use the Future Tense: “ estarán comprando las bebidas”. Now, in the dialogue, Manuel was wondering “Is this where the party is at?”
Fernando: Dice, “¿Será aquí la fiesta?”
JP: So, in this case, he’s asking Gustavo to speculate because he knows Gustavo doesn’t know for a fact, either, if this is the right place or not. So, he uses the Future Tense of “ser” which is “será”.
Fernando: Correcto. También podría haber preguntado “¿Es aquí la fiesta?”
JP: He could have, he could’ve used the Present Tense, but that would indicate he was expecting a factual answer from Gustavo. And Gustavo doesn’t know anything. He’s just as clueless as Manuel.
Fernando: Ahora JP creo que ya es hora de terminar.

Outro

JP: Ok, cool. Now, before we go, I want to remind everyone that you can comment on this lesson if you just go to our website which is www.Spanishpod101.com you’ll find this lesson then you find the comment section right below it. And there you can ask us questions, leave us comments, suggestions, anything you want to do, we love to hear. Which you have to say. For now I guess it’s time to go. So, ¡hasta luego!
Fernando: ¡Adios!

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Wednesday at 6:30 pm
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¡Hola a todos! En esta lección, Gustavo y Manuel buscan la fiesta de Jimena. Ya llegaron a la casa indicada, pero todavía no están seguros que esten al lugar correcto. ¿Deben tocar a la puerta? ¿Tratar de llamarle a Jimena en su móvil? ¿Qué harías tú en esa situación? Yo... creo que yo tocaría a la puerta....

Jane
Thursday at 9:59 am
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Yo tengo dificudad con la charla. Es muy rapido para mi!

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Monday at 11:43 am
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Hola Terence,


Thank you for your comment.

Apetecer means "to feel like"

Sigamos practicando!


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Terence
Monday at 11:46 pm
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Bueno esa idea no le apetece nada a Manuel. Apetecer is defined in my dictionary as " to long for", " to feel like". It doesn't make sense to me. Am I taking it too literal?

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Monday at 7:56 pm
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Hola Danielle,


Thank you for your message.


Please also check out the Lesson Transcript's [Dialogue] section. It includes the names of the speakers involved in the conversation. :)


We appreciate your feedback and will certainly take it into consideration for our future development.


In case of any questions, please feel free to contact us.


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Danielle
Wednesday at 5:55 am
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Hello, I think it would be helpful to label the names of the people speaking in the dialogue if they are going to be referenced as so in the lesson (instead of A and B).

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Thursday at 11:43 am
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Hola Howard,


Thank you for your comment.

I meant that the subjunctive (mood) depends on how this want to be express by the speaker and verb tense focus in when the action takes place.

In other words, you cannot assume that when something is uncertain you have to use the subjunctive. Using the subjunctive implies the whole context/subject of the sentence or idea.


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Howard
Monday at 9:29 am
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Hola,


I did not feel that your answer to Maarten's question was at all helpful. Why use the future tense to speculate about the future instead of using the subjunctive? To speculate about an event is surely reflecting a speaker's attitude to the event! So why use the future tense which should refer to a future event? A less off-handed answer than that given to Maarten would be appreciated.


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Howard

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Monday at 8:31 am
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Hola Maarten,


Thank you for your comment. :wink:

The future tense and the subjunctive mood are different.

Mood reflects a speaker's attitude toward a statement.

Tense refers to when an action takes place.


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Carla

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Maarten
Wednesday at 4:58 pm
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Hey!


Thanks for the great lesson! So you mention a secondary function of the future tense: to speculate on the present. As this is uncertain, a speculation. Why do you not use the subjunctivo here, as this is not certain? Thanks in advance!

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Thursday at 12:44 pm
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Hola Kerri,


Thank you for your comment!

Because the slang, "chido" is use with gender, "chido" for masculine and "chida" for feminine.


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